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  1. Just listened to entire thing and as you say it was Edwin at Hinkley. Guess 'up north' is a term used by anyone who lives south nowadays. More problematic for me was the (cod history) description of NS as just 'its from up north': Its being washed clean of its complexity: 'working class roots', its cultural politics, its reactionary beginnings, pharmaceutical liberation, the pioneering spirit of those who created it and basically its history. Its being cleaned up, like Brixton has been or soho. Eve started in the 80's as a mod she says (original 80's soul girl as Abby describes her), but seems to have left very little trace in terms of people who know her as a regular on the NS scene, particularly Stafford. She plugs a Stafford record as her favourite because they have "just brought it out on a single" The final part when they say "NS has left the North to make Bristol its home" is astonishing and totally ridiculous. Its gaslighting. Perhaps all the other clubs and actual all nighters may find that a shock. Wigan Young Souls, Rugby, 100 club, etc. Eve also says that they are taking NS into the 21st, as if the NS promoters have not done that through the decades. Or as if we have not done that through the decades of dedication and knowledge. 2000 was 23 years ago and this outfit have started 7 years ago and don't run all-nighters or go to many despite the quotes about "going out at weekends to dance all night" As for the 'their album'?! Its a compilation and obviously to us, as we know if we compile an album, its about celebrating the music and musicians: Not us! There is no mention of musicians in any of this interview. Charly Records and others are trying to attach themselves to the manufactured celebrity (soulless some argue) to do what many have failed to do over the decades, to market a person or figure to sell their merchandise.They could not do it previously as it was about the vinyl and the original musicians and the incredible music, not celebrity. Now, largely due to the ability to fabricate provenance and celebrity on social media, they are selling NS not as the music, but as a product endorsed by another product who has been created precisely for that purpose. I have a lot of information and interviews about this, and as Ive said, I am writing a book about this souless co-optation of a soulful scene. I'm hoping to publish this year, we shall see.
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  2. FOOTIE AND 45s WEEKENDS By Dave Moore As lifelong Burnley Football Club fans, I am so chuffed that Bev, my Grandkids, (who are also season ticket holders) and the club, play a central role in this tale. We left Burnley in 1985 but as a family we still attend most home games and quite a few away games which, when your grandson plays grass roots football on Saturday and Sundays, can be a challenging programme at the best of times, as even the home games result in a 300 mile round trip for us! However, for three weekends in December 2023 the trips couldn’t have been more worthwhile. Combining two interests that have dominated my life is a first for me and I’m still walking around with a big beaming smile on my face! To find out why, read on… As a town Burnley has punched above it’s weight in a number of ways during my lifetime, the football team being a good example of this. We’ve won the League, The FA Cup, played in Europe and are currently battling away against the mighty billionaires of the Premier League. The club is woven into the DNA of the townspeople as it always will. The other way it punched above it’s weight was in the world of rare soul collecting. East Lancs was a hotbed of rare soul collecting and back in the mid 70s soul clubs were in abundance in the town as were the sales boxes of many of the areas premier soul collectors/sellers. Back to our tale… At one of the home games in November (v West Ham), I was approached on the concourse by a good mate of mine ‘Bob’. He told me that his friend had told him of a record collection in town that may well be up for sale as the collector had passed a while back and his brother wanted shut of the 45s that were gathering dust. I asked the obvious questions of How Many? What Genre? Has anyone sifted it yet? Bob couldn’t answer any of the questions and confirmed he’d make some more enquiries. The following weekend I was up in my home town once again to watch the Mighty Clarets trounce relegation rivals Sheff Utd 5-0) and, having handed the grandkids over to their Dad on Sunday morning ended up in a post-match soul gig in Rishton, a small town a few miles away, that same afternoon. During a pretty good afternoon catching up with Chris Waterman, Ashley Fellows and Mick H, Bob turned up and relayed that he’d been told there were thousands of records and that they were primarily RnB and Jazz. He gave me the business card of the guy with his phone number on and we arranged to try and get there the following weekend. Burnley were away to Brighton the following Saturday but Bev and I had arranged to watch the match in Burnley at our good friends and fellow Clarets Bev and Kev Parker, before us all setting off to go to the Beamish Museum in Co Durham. So, it was gonna be a tight fit to get it all done on Saturday. Fortunately Sky TV, hadn’t messed about with the 3pm KO and would give me a few hours digging about. Unfortunately Bob remembered he had his works ‘do’ on that day and so I rang the guy and arranged to meet him at noon. I picked up my rather ‘fuzzy headed’ best mate Billy (LOL!) and off we went with a pocket full of cash and the belief that we’d probably be returning with it intact. The location was an old Mill type Building near the centre of the town. (1) Although the town’s cotton heritage is well known, many of the old buildings from the industrial revolution have been demolished but there is a will in the town to preserve what can still be utilised and improvements and renovations can be found in various areas of the town. As we approached I felt sinking feeling as Tom (2) met us at the roller door and explained the records were in the cellar! I experienced visions of dark, damp cellars full of mouldy old 45s similar to the ones encountered in Philadelphia, Miami, St Louis, Chicago, and New Orleans but was pleasantly surprised to find that once we entered the underground the space it opened up to reveal a large dry room with good electrics that housed a mountain of electrical music equipment. Turntables, speakers, moogs, keyboards, Amps, 2 complete band set ups and a whole host of recording kit, mixing boards and various guitars scanning 4 decades filled the room. A quick chat with Tom revealed that he was a sound engineer, DJ, from back in the day whose brother Mal had passed a while ago. He was in the process of selling off all the equipment on his retirement from the sound business. This included his joint record collection that he and his brother built up, many as new releases. After a quick tour of the place my attention was drawn to shelves and bags full of 45s and albums sat lurking on one side of a wall and with Billy, having left his specs at home and having a head like a pneumatic drill, deciding he was a little too under the weather to sift thousands of dusty ole’ 45s, I bailed in alone. After a few minutes it became apparent that the shelves were indeed primarily 60s UK labelled RnB, Soul albeit interspersed with hits of the day by the Beatles, Rolling Stones and the odd pop hit from the same era. The first seam of the day quickly showed itself as I picked out UK Tamla Motown copies of Barbara McNair, The Hit Pack, The Spinners (‘Sweet Thing’ AND ‘I’ll Always Love You’) amongst others. A few minutes later The Marvelettes on Fontana (‘Mr Postman’ AND ‘Twistin’ Postman’) made an appearance alongside a number of Oriole issues. There was also a copy of Paul Gayten’s ‘The Hunch’ on London which I’ve always suspected was the first ‘Motown’ orientated product released in UK. We were off and running! In the next handful was a slew of Garnet Mimms on UA and Howard Tate on Verve. Now on a normal days record hunting that would already be a great result for sure, especially in today’s climate where the days of finding untouched 45s of this calibre are almost a thing of the past. I moved to the next shelf and was greeted by what I thought may well be a whole run of UK SUE labelled rnb/soul. A quick confirmation that Ernestine Anderson, Jackie Day, Danny White, Fascinations etc were present amongst the Ike and Tina, John Lee Hooker and Elmore James 45s and the smile grew even wider on this Burnley lad’s face! Having started to stack the 45s into categorized piles I came across a seam of UK Black Chess 45s, probably around 30 of them and was puzzled as to why they were all RNB/Blues by Bo Diddley, Muddy Waters, Little Milton etc, until I moved onto the next shelf to find The Gospel Classics, Ramsey Lewis, Fontella Bass, The Dells, The Radiants, Cash McCall and Jackie Ross waiting for me. Speaking to Tom as I flicked through the 45s I learned a little bit more about his exploits and those of his brother Mal. They were both musicians who were in a local rock/rnb band in the 60s/70s. He relayed many of the places they played locally including The Imperial Ballroom in Nelson, The Birdtrap in Brierfield (which coincidentally runs a soul night there at which Bob is currently a regular DJ). As was the norm in these RnB/Soul clubs of the time, DJs would play in between the band appearances, (much like today) and Tom and his brother would take on that role in addition to Tom being the sound man and his brother a band member. Tom, it appears liked the rock side of things whilst his brother Mal leaned toward RnB/Blues and later slid into the fledgling Northern Soul sound. It was a thrill to listen to his tales of gigging around the North West and his memories of the bands and people of the time. I’d been around in the mid 70s in Burnley, even running soul nights until 1980 when I left and to think that this collection had remained unknown to me and my peers whilst we were DJing around the corner (In one case right across the road!) was fantastic. To be able to rescue it for future fan’s enjoyment was even better! One of the more prolific labels that eventually secured releases on it’s own logo in the UK was the STAX imprint from Memphis. And the history of it’s dealings as it strove to establish itself was all here on the shelves, told by the 45s themselves. The journey through their earlier releases on London giving way to the Atlantic logo before finally hitting the shops on their own blue label was captured on these shelves. What a shame that the familiar Blue Polydor distributed records didn’t get released in sleeves and that we would have to wait until EMI got hold of the distribution to see the now famous finger clicking logo! On investigating, the Blue Stax pile I had now built up revealed that there were 6 missing, something that I will rectify shortly. The yellow Polydor and later Pye distributed records were a little more thinner on the ground which I put down to the guys interest in DJing waning as the 70s progressed. No black record collection from this era could be regarded as fully representing the timeline without a fair slew of Motown and although I mentioned some choice bits earlier I now found myself opening a large canvas bag that revealed quite a portion of Motown but on the earlier Stateside logo. Happy days! As a stream of 45s passed smoothly from my hands to a new pile I’d added Earl Van Dyke, Carolyn Crawford, The Contours, The Miracles, The Temptations and a host of others to my ever growing piles of 45s. By now I’d amassed about 650 records and the Clarets v Brighton was calling so I decided to take a chance and arrange to come back the next weekend when Burnley were at home to Everton. Tom was more than happy with that and a price for the first haul was agreed, duly paid and we parted with the agreement that we would not tell anyone about the 45s remaining and return on Friday the day before The Match in order to have a full day searching the remaining 45s. I arrived at Bev and Kev’s just before kick off with what must have been the look of a Cheshire Cat! Needless to say the trip to the Beamish was informative and entertaining, especially The Dentist! but as my friend Bev commented… you’re a bit distracted aren’t you Dave? LOL! It was a nervous week as I hoped and prayed no one would find out about the collection until after I’d been through every 45 which was the plan on the Friday. I rang Tom on Thursday to confirm our appointment and that no one had been to see them in the meantime. Duly assured that no one had at 7:00am I set off alone on the 150 mile journey, Bev and Grandkids would come up on Saturday and we’d stay over after the game. By 11 am I’d picked up Billy, Bob and we were walking down those cellar steps to complete the task. Another Footie and 45 Weekend beckoned! On arrival the three of us took a section each and pulled anything of interest out, my first delve into yet another canvas bag yielded a whole slew of Pye International RnB Series 45s. This series was designed to release foreign outings in UK and although it’s early 60s outings contain many US RnB artists by 1963 the label released a mix of styles of black music including artists as diverse as Willie Dixon through to Dionne Warwick under its RnB Series banner. Blues, RnB and Soul artists of the era litter the catalogue and names as diverse as Chuck Berry, Billy Stewart, Bo Didley, Tommy Tucker, John Lee Hooker, Sugar Pie DeSanto and Tony Clarke sit alongside each other. It won’t have escaped the readers’ attention that many of these artists were signed to the Chess logo which up until 1965 had no output on its own now famous black logo This particular Pye Series lasted for just over a year before the Pink PYE logo was introduced and the label became even more diverse. For anyone interested in the development of RnB and how it laid some of the foundations for the soul explosion round the corner, the Pye International label is a great starting point. Most don’t cost a king’s ransom and there are one or two gems in there. As a bonus there was a pristine, sleeved blue PYE copy of Etta James – ‘At Last’ that I was particularly pleased to find. (3) In the corner up against the LP shelves were 3 or 4 old wooden DJ record cases and they were next on the search. On opening the first one I discovered a couple more handfuls of the Chess catalogue and as I flicked through the 200 or so 45s in this particular box I picked out a number of others. At the end of that box I had piled up almost 60 of them. The search was on for the remainder! The usual suspects of Ramsey Lewis, Fontella Bass, Billy Stewart, The Dells, Jackie Ross were all there as were the likes of Gene Chadler’s – ‘Such A Pretty Thing’ all Northern favourites but strangely no Tiffanies and not a single promo. On unzipping another canvas bag that had seen better days the first handful delivered a fistful of Bobby Bland 45s and as any collector/soulfan knows, if Bobby’s around it’s best to slow down and ensure you don’t miss a single 45! True to form, Bobby preceded a rather nice haul of Vocalion 45s. That included not just himself but also Tommy Neal, Bud Harper, Al TNT Braggs and Little Johnny Taylor amongst others. The second half of the bag revealed another slew of early TMG Motown 45s. and that particular ever growing pile was enhanced by 45s from Kim Weston, Brenda Holloway, Shorty Long, Chris Clark and Jr Walker and The All Stars amongst others. I wondered if the TMGs were finished or if some of the later releases were still to be found and on opening a battered 7inch cardboard box I got my answer. The Contours, Isley Brothers, Jr Walker, Marvin and Tammi, Rita Wright and The Undisputed Truth were amongst the haul from the early 70s. As the piles of 45s grew, I started taking a break from searching and concentrated my efforts on ‘sifting’ the piles we’d built for any real quality 45s in slow time. As I’d come across interesting bits I’d simply placed them on a separate pile and it was this particular pile that would now yield the ‘icing on the cake’. The pile had slowly grown to about 100 x 45s all of which were Northern Soul. In amongst this pile of vinyl treasures were copies of Chubby Checker – ‘You Just Don’t Know’ – Cameo Parkway Demo, Dee Dee Warwick – ‘Worth Every Tear I Cry’ – Mercury, Both Little Anthony’s big Northern outings on UA, Sapphires – ‘Got To Have Your Love’ – HMV, Poets – ‘She Blew A Good Thing’ – London, Jimmy Robbins – ‘I Just Can’t Please You’ – President, Skull Snaps – My Hang Up Is You – GSF, ke and Tina – Dust My Broom – HMV Demo. Gene McDaniels – ‘Walk With A Winner’ – Liberty. It was proving to be a good afternoon! Once I’d sorted that pile into 2 separate piles and made a mental note not to add any more but to start another ‘Northern’ pile I delved into the bottom shelves of the racks that held another approx. 500 x 45s. The first handfuls delivered a series of Beatles EPs that under normal circumstances I would have lifted but the condition proved too poor to make them worthwhile, disappointed I put them back and pulled out another handful. It was Action Time! 45s by Little Carl Carlton, The Showmen, Dee Dee Sharp, Clifford Curry, The Olympics, Minnie Epperson, Wilmer and The Dukes and Jeanette Williams were amongst that shelf’s wares. Whilst the next one gave up a handful of Dave Godin’s Soul City labelled 45s, Gene Chandler, Bessie Banks and Chris Jackson amongst them. As the afternoon drew to a close I once again turned my attention to the mounting stacks of 45s that we’d accumulated and checked each one again. Although none of the records were mint and unplayed they were in surprisingly good nick to say they’d been shelved down here for god knows how long and in amongst the piles we’d set aside we confirmed hauls of Atlantic, Polydor, Direction, Monument, Columbia, Capitol Mercury and Track that were confirmed as keepers. As I checked the Stateside pile that had also grown quite healthily, I was pleasantly surprised to see quite a few there that would soon nestle in my own collection that I’d not owned since 1990 when I actioned off my then UK collection. The likes of Sammy Ambrose, The Incredibles, Mickey Lee Lane, The Sharpees The OJays and Bettye Lavette would be returning to ‘Casa Moore’ for sure! As we reached the end of the shelves and emptied the last couple of cardboard boxes from which we added to the now lopsided stacks of records. I turned my attention to number of promos that I’d stacked during the afternoon’s activities and these were duly transferred to the ‘we’re taking these’ stacks alongside the US 45 stack that had crept up on me as I’d simply placed anything familiar in to a pile and was quite pleased when I checked through the stack again. During the 2 days of hunting, I’d not really taken much notice of the US 45s we came across so it was something of a nice surprise to realise we had actually fared quite well on the US records too! It was now time to finalise a price that both Tom and I were happy with and once that was concluded and the cash exchanged we boxed another 650 up and transferred to the car upstairs. It had been a great couple of days, rooting through the records had taken me back to the mid 70s soul clubs around East Lancashire and reminded me of the fantastic times we had. Memories of record guys like Steve Bradley, Barrie Waddington, Dave Taylor, Guy Hennigan, Alan Hughes etc, all happy to educate a fledge-ling soul collector. The mad, cross country trips to hit the record bars of venues and the great trips home comparing what we’d managed to snag. That evening we sat around at Billy’s cherry picking the haul to everyone’s satisfaction, as Bob left with his particular bagful, Billy and I slowly sifted the 45s to decide which we would keep and which we might possibly move on. We both decided that apart from a few 45s that would be given to close friends, we would absorb them into our collections. The collection we’d stumbled over would stay together albeit in 2 locations. After a night on Billy’s settee surrounded by records it was ‘up and at ‘em for’ breakfast with my sister Julie and Billy before I picked up the Grandkids and Bev from their Dad who’d driven up from Malvern and after a chaotic lunch we hit Turf Moor. Despite a poor performance against our ex manager Sean Dyche’s team Everton, in which 3 ex Burnley players played a crucial role in our 0-2 defeat, I wasn’t quite as miserable as the kids! An overnight with the kids at our second home (Premier Inn - where the kids fall asleep watching Match Of The Day!) and next morning their Dad picked them up after a hearty breakfast and Bev and I made our way to Billys to pick up almost 1000 x 45s. The drive home was different than usual. Our Mighty Clarets been well beaten again but the chat was decidedly upbeat in our car! When I decided to write up the weekend’s activities I was a bit concerned that it would simply become a list of ‘I then found this’, ‘I then found that’, (which essentially is what it is) but decided that other collector’s might appreciate the tale. I was always enthralled when listening to other collectors’ tales of record hunting and in todays climate of internet, ebay, discogs, having changed the face of the hobby beyond recognition over the years, it felt particularly good to rely on old school skills for a change. I’d like to wish other record hunters a Very Happy and Fruitful New Year and hopefully look forward to more tales of record rescuing in 2024. Dave Moore Jan 2024 REFERENCES: 1. At the request of Tom I have not divulge the exact location of the building. 2. I have used a pseudonym for ‘TOM’ and for his brother ‘MAL’ as he wasn’t keen on his identity or that of his location being made public. However, if anyone is interested in buying any LPs or Speakers, Amps, Technics Turntables, Sound Gear etc I’d be happy to put you in contact with him. 3. Etta James – ‘At Last’ was my Son and Daughter In Law’s first dance at their wedding and I intend to frame the 45 alongside the sheet music and a picture of the happy couple on the dancefloor. PDF Version Complete article in PDF Format: footie-and-45s-by-dave-moore-jan-2024.pdf
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  3. Adapt, evolve and participate? Why when we already have Ray Pollard. Some band wagon jumper ain’t going to better Ray. Northern Soul doesn’t need emulating or copying, it doesn’t need changing. What is already there is one reason why it has endured for so long. Always puzzles me why some join a scene and immediately want to change it, therein lies the problem and why it gets so many backs up. Just enjoy it as it is, it doesn’t need to change or copying, especially by a bunch of of soulless brit singers.
    28 points
  4. I had to see the liver consultant at Queens Medical Centre in Nottingham this morning. I was very anxious and was accompanied by my mental health care coordinator Danielle. The hospital was spotless, staff warm, friendly and reassuring; including the consultant who was very informative and very lovely. Everything completed exactly on time. I can't think of any thing they might have done to improve things. My liver disease is stable, and just need to have two scans and another endoscopy in the next month. So, I'm pleased with everything. Not having had a drink since December 4th 2021 has been the main factor. So, despite years of cuts and a starvation of funds the people running things are doing an amazing job. Three cheers for our amazing doctors, nurses, consultants ,administrative staff, the cleaners and anyone else. Peter
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  5. Happy Christmas to everyone associated with Soul Source. Special thanks to Mike for another soulful year of the site, including the moderators, and of course to all of my friends who contribute. (Everyone). Lets hope it's peaceful and that everyone stays safe. Peter
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  6. As far as I’m concerned it’s a dead horse that’s being flogged to death. Again and again and again! The facts: Apart from a few unreleased tunes, there are no new records. In desperation to find something new, other genres of music are being played as up front. The majority of us are in our sixties or over. It’s a dance scene, and we can’t dance anymore. The divvies have taken over since the movie Northern Soul came out. When I see videos of events it makes me cringe. It looks like a care home. I went to a soul do a few weeks ago to meet some friends that I hadn’t seen for ages. Decent room, ear splitting sound system, couldn’t talk to my friends. Not many in, and many of those that were in haven’t been on a dance floor for thirty years. I couldn’t wait to get out. The music is very special. But the scene is simply a social club for old people.
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  7. Not spotted till now, thought I'd share
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  8. A more definitive list of spins not yet mentioned, from mainly the early 80s to 2000. The Arcades-are you gonna leave me c/u 1984 (Jesse James-are you gonna leave me-Shirley) Tony Owens-sweet memories of you c/u 1994 (Robert Tanner-sweet memories-Megatone) Blenders-just an ordinary guy c/u Mighty Lovers-they are saying c/u Perfections-just cant leave you Perfections-my imagination Temptones-that’s when you know you're in love c/u Bessie Banks-i want a guarantee Columbia acetate 2019 Devonnes-doin’ the gittin up RCA Custom acetate 1998 Derek Martin-flash back-Associated acetate Masquaraders- its your turn to pay c/u 2004 Parliaments-this is my rainy day-Cabell Ruby-feminine ingenuity-Gold Token Poets-wrapped around your finger-J2 Lancaster Johnson-two can play that game c/u 1997 (Hank Hodge-eye for an eye-eye) Bob & Fred-Ill be on my way-Big Mack Masquaraders-look at you c/u 1988 Proffs-look at me-Curr Bobbettes-ill never know c/u 1990 (Chantels-Ill never know-Aqua) The Chymes-Im walking in the park-acetate Johnny Vanelli-hang on in there c/u 1988 (Jesse Davis-gonna hang on in there girl-Era) (from Dave raistrick) Saints-ill let you slide-Wigwam Adventurers-she’s hipper c/u 1981 (Four Andantes-hipper than me-MoDo) Sensations-demanding man-Wayout Caressors-i cant stay away-Rujac 1979 Larry Harris-one lover won’t do c/u 1979 (Districts-One lover-Nile) Arthur Willis-the hurting is over-Mars La Tour Hopkins Bros-shake sherri-Magnetik Sharon Soul & the Rich Tees-been hearing about you c/u (Sweet Tones acetate) Vessie Simmons-got to have your love c/u 2013 Willie Tee-you got to pay your dues-Bonatemp 2008 Bobby Guitar Curtis-give me back my heart c/u 1989 Larry Williams-cause I'm a soul brother c/u Mandells-love is so wonderful c/u Agents-trouble-Impact Sound (alt. version) E Rodney Jones-you brought out the good in me c/u Brenda Holloway-dont turn you back on me 10” Motown acetate Celebrities-I choose you baby-Boss 1991 JB Hammond-kiss me baby c/u 2012 Ivey Joe Hunter-where are you 10” Motown acetate Porgy Williams-there goes the fool 2000 Tyrone Thomas-baby cant you see-Allegro acetate Lou Roberts-that’s no lie c/u 1984 Little Johnny Hamilton-keep on movin-Dore Swans-nitty gritty city-Dore Herman Lewis-good things come to those who wait-acetate Kenny Carlton-I gotta talk to you Ken Barker-see how bad i wanna love you-Groovesville acetate Big Tim & Empires-your turn to be blue-Mecury acetate Traditions-he really loved her c/u (Eptones-a love thats real-Jox) Clarence Townsend-I found a love-Clara August Moon-don’t tell me no lies-Gotham acetate. Intrepids-you dont love me c/u 2002 Pipkin Brothers-that’s why I love you 2007 Diplomats-run back to my lovin arms c/u 2003 Brenda Starr-satan let me sleep 2016 (alt. version) give me time to think it over-United acetate (unreleased Thelma) Speed Limit-take it from me c/u 2012 Little Dooley-got to help me find my baby c/u 2012 Billy Wisdom-I wish I was c/u Sounds of Philadelpia-love keeps me trying-inst. 1998 Voicemasters-dance inst. Fuller Brothers-you aint no good c/u (Modern Soul Trio-you’re no good-Youngstown) Roe-o-tation-special category 2018 (alt. version) Fascinators-you keep on walking by c/u (Boss Four-walking by-Boss) The Vondells-I love you c/u 1990 (Shandells-Ive got to love her-Bridge Society) Peter & the Wolfs-my heart is true-Bridge Society Dave Newman & the Chequers c/u 1990 (Cheques-deeper-Heatwave) Court Davis-I think its gonna be c/u 1985 (Duane Calvert-I think its gonna be someone new-DMD) Volumes-shook up c/u 1978 Isonics-sugar-Kammy Richard Caiton-reflections-Uptight Emeralds-beware-Vick 2014 Tyrone Terrell-treat you right c/u 1988 (Henry C-country girl-Action) Tropics-hey you little girl-Topic 1984 Gil Blandon-stay away from my girl c/u 1990 (Lo Johnson-warning-Knight) Imitations-Im moving on 1981 (Voltaires-movin movie on-Bacone) Mary & desireables-If you see my baby 1981 (Passions-if you see my baby-Elliviture Jay Walkers-love you til the day I die (Billy Wester-good people-Silvertone) Bobby Paris-please say it’s not so c/u Dream Team-Im not satisfied - Gregory Ring Masters-moonlight lovers c/u 1989 Ritchie Adams its ok 1993 (Jimmy Castor-it’s ok-Jet Set) Johnny Barnes-groove my mind c/u 1997 (Mel Williams-groove my mind-Clipper) Carpets-I just cant win-ViJ Endeavors-beware of your friends-Empire State Len Jewel-dynamite lover c/u 1990 Jades-lucky fellow-Mode 1982 Fabulous Performers-one last kiss-Studio 76 acetate 1981 The Butlers-I don't understand it Dave Charles-aint gonna cry no more-Donnie Underground Express-a man’s temptation-UGE Kenny Hamber-anything you want-Arctic Talmadge Armstrong-gigi-Spindletop Don Ray-Im not gonna be your fool anymore c/u (Monorays-love-20th C) George Hobson-in my lonely room c/u 1986 (Sammie Campbell-listen to my radio-Vision) Four Tracks-like a love I never had c/u Dream Team-Im not satisfied-Gregory Curtis Blandon-call me if you need me c/u 1990 (Tommy Soul-ill be right here-Gaslight) Leroy Lane & the Upstairs maids-I dont want to be friends c/u 1986 Joe Valentine-I lost the only love I ever had-Val Sugar Pie Desanto-guess who c/u 2017 Johnny Brantley-have pity on a fool like me c/u 2008 Ducky & Glowlighters-over and over-Sound Plus acetate Clarence Townsend-getting my life straight c/u Danny Woods-you had me fooled-Correctone 1977 West Coast Distributors-girl i love you-Jam Cha 1980 Profiles-is it my girl that’s putting me through it c/u Bobby Montgomery-still a tomorrow c/u 1998 Charlene & soul serenaders-can you win-Paradox The Belairs-I got the feeling-Virtue (alt. version) Original Matadors-searching for love c/u 2007 Marvin Sims-that’s what she told me c/u 1992 Ed Townsend & Tru-Glows-it’s a lonely night c/u 1999 And the Echoes-my love for you c/u 1990 Van McCoy-so soon April Blackwood acetate Exits-cool operator c/u 2014 Servicemen-love conquers all c/u (Two plus Two-love will conquer all-Ditto) Debonairs-it was a dream c/u 1990 Gerald Sims & the Breeze-goodbye sadness c/u 1993 West Coast Distributors-Ive been deserted c/u 2000 Vashionettes-say yes c/u 2008 Trends-don’t dance so close c/u 2000 Topics-I could never find a nicer girl-Sound Plus Enchanters-there’s a look about you-Tee Pee 1986 Rudy Love-who’s fooling you c/u 1985 Alder Ray-what are you trying to do to me-Master Herb Ward-Im so glad-Virtue acetate 1995 Milestones-girl I'm too much man c/u 2014 Unknown artist-in one ear-Virtue Albert Jones-security & satisfaction c/u 1988 Frank Foster-no baby c/u 1995 (Mary Lou Williams-you know baby-Pittsburgh) Imperial Wonders-I love her so c/u 2015 Elliot Small-teenage love c/u 1992 (Little Tommy-teen age lover-Harvest) South Coast Connection-one step ahead inst. c/u 2010 A Case of Time-Ive got to take it c/u 2009 Bill Bush & greater exp.-girl dry you tears c/u 2012 Soulful Core-come on & show me c/u 2015 Judy Freeman-does he wonder c/u 1995 Bags & Beans-trust your luck-Samone Uptights-you bring out the love c/u 2020 Full Force-you’re looking good c/u 2016 Mitchell Hawkins & Choice of Love-I don't want to lose you acetate BlueLights-love built on strong foundations c/u 1989 (Soul Blenders-love built on strong-Vanessa) Masters of Soul-oh girl don’t let go c/u 2010 Randy & Radiants-it’s over c/u (alt. Bands of Gold) Noble & Uptights-dont wory about it-Action Bobby Jones-stop-acetate 5 Perfections-you can do it c/u Ray Frazier-my baby’s hand-Wright Sound Satisfactions-some time c/u 1992 (Billy Sol-time time-Domar) Cindy Scott-heartaches & pain c/u 2015 Eddie Alexander-fix it man c/u Willie Newman & Del Reys-love done past me by-acetate Doc Oliver-goin thru a change of love-Lucky Labels Teddy Cash-I love the sound of music-Cha Cha Profiles-I still love you-Universal acetate (alt. version) Ike Perry & Lyrics-dont turn around-Cleveland acetate 2014 Joe Adams-stop-Frankford Wayne acetate 1990
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  9. Not for me. Black America left us a huge legacy of great soul music that is far from fully discovered even now. The original talents came up with original works. AI would just be basing itself on these recordings and adding nothing new to them
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  10. just what we need in 2024, a new member telling us all how to do things if you and any one else wants to "shake a leg/have a boogie of a Fri/Sat night and remember what it was like back in the 70’s!" then simply find a event that does that, there's many about, no real need to sign up here and then proceed to tell us all where you think everyone is going wrong and what's all this about writing wedding dj poems? are/were you one?
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  11. 'Getting spins' - my mate played it last week to twelve elderly people at their care home, and I'm selling one 'Just right for today' - ignored for the previous 50 years of the scene, but I'm selling one 'In demand' - I'm selling one, but I want more than that 'Big at Wigan' - reached No3 in the pop charts and I'm selling one, but I want more than that 'Big at Stafford' - country and western, but Guy once played it, possibly when he was on mushrooms, and I'm selling one 'Tape swappers fave' - too country and western even for Stafford, and I'm selling one 'Mint-' - if you'd bought a record in this state at HMV thirty years ago you'd have gone back and punched the manager 'Ex-' - rejected as a frisbee 'VG' - rejected as an ashtray 'Over-hyped' - I want one but I'm not paying that much 'Turned up in quantity' - I want one but I'm also not paying that much Sorry, a disappointing package of records arrived this morning and I feel the need to vent (Stafford was great and Guy was maybe my favourite DJ as a kid.)
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  12. You're ridiculously way over analysing things! Going on holiday or playing sport could fall into your mental categories. Too much analysing goes on these days! This is what happened. People wanted a good time so they went out and had a good time!
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  13. Yann Vatiste How long have you been collecting? I discovered a mixture Northern Soul, R&B, Latin, Ska, Jazz, Acid Jazz & Funk music on the Mod scene in the late 80s. I slowly started collecting records around the age of 15 as I had a very good friend called Spider who was a musician with an incredible collection of French EPs and thousands of soul, r&b and jazz records. I spent hours at his house, making tapes, taking notes and discovering black American music. During this time we would rummage through car boot sales and charity shops mainly, back then everything cost around 5 or 10 francs (50p/£1). Do you remember your first buy? To be honest, I don’t know which is the first record I bought but I do remember the one that changed my life, Kent Records The Magic Touch compilation LP , I used to play this on repeat in my room whilst teaching myself how to spin and kick. I was doing martial arts at that time which helped. A hugely influential album for me which made me not only want to learn more about soul music but eventually led me to move to London after visiting the 100 club. What’s your favourite record in your box? It will have to be Kenyatta – Kick It Off on NGUDU which is a funk monster 45, It simply has to be this one because of the story behind it… You can choose how you search for records and my method has always been to try to connect with the artists and musicians behind these incredible gems, so I decided to try and find the guy behind Kenyatta and soon realised I was the only one on the case. I first established who the owner of the label was, Ngudu Chandler, a famous drummer who worked with Michael Jackson. I found his daughter and she had a copy of the 45 but cracked in two, she was shocked that anyone remembered this 45! So I started researching for the songwriters Keith Rose and James Crabbe Robinson. I quickly realised that these guys were from New York and not Ohio like the label suggested. Despite sending hundreds of emails, phone calls and Facebook messages I was unable to make contact, so I started contacting their friends and family. I also noticed a really cool bass player called Paris Ford who had connections with them in different bands but he almost seemed to young for it to make sense, after contacting him though Paris responding… guess what? Paris was the Kenyatta’s bass player. I couldn’t believe my luck. Finally I was making progress! Paris told me he had an original copy of Kick It Off but it was completely scratched and it was the only copy he had. I still tried to buy from him but I didn’t push much because it was his only copy however, we started exchanging messages daily and became very good friends. Paris himself had a solo career and he told me he also had some unreleased material and that is how Epsilon Record Co. was born, with EPS001 Paris Ford- Boogie Down. At the same time Paris sent me 10 unreleased Kenyatta tracks. My heart almost stopped when I first listened to these tracks, these songs are simply incredible. Check them out – EPS005 A: Let Me Love You / B: Ain’t Doin Nothing EPS006 A: If We Only Had / B: Didn’t I Treat You Right Girl I remained very close to Paris after the release of these songs and I was also there to help him in his projects. When Paris realised that I also repaired records, he asked me if I wanted to try to repair his copy of Kenyatta – Kick It Off for him, I told him of course, I would do it for free and a week later I received his original copy. It repaired perfectly and sent it back to New York, Paris was really happy with the result and I was really proud to have a copy in my hands for a few days. Then out of the blue, several weeks later. I received a package from the USA with the name Paris on it. I was really surprised and didn’t know what to expect. To my surprise it was the same copy of Kick It Off that I was working on, Paris kindly decided to offer it to me and it was an incredible surprise. So how can it not be my favourite record, it’s not only an amazing record but one that has a special story behind it with a beautiful ending. I still have some superb unreleased material from Kenyatta, Paris and I will publish them one day for sure… watch this space! Which record do you regret selling the most? I don’t think I regret any particular record. I also sell records to improve my record collection. Buying/selling and trading are part of our record collecting journey. I think today everyone is too obsessed with the value of their collection. I love music, collecting and digging new sounds and master tapes and I always look forward, not back continuing to learn every day. What’s your fave all time soul club? Easy… the 100 club in London without any hesitation. The best club in the world with the mighty Butch! What’s your all time want? As a Shrine Records collector, it will have to be The Prophets – If I Had One Gold Piece. I would also love to own Patrinell Staten – Little Love Affair on Sepia. Archive of past DJ interviews can be found here
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  14. Hi everyone Just found these two letters from Dave. He was definitely going to issue Sam Nesbitt ( I did have some pre issue prints of the label but heavens know where they ended up). Maybe someone on here has them or knows where they are. Second letter at the bottom eludes to the second proposed issue as Sandi Sheldon!!! Pity he never got round to it Thank goodness I didn't bin these
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  15. Photos and Info sent in from Lorne Anton, who while based in Chatham with the RN took these photos at The Central Gillingham in 1967 Maxine Brown and the Q-Set at the Central R&B Club, Gillingham 3rd December 1967 Lorne's accompanying words The date I originally gave for the Maxine Brown gig at the Central R&B Club, Gillingham is wrong, apologies! The correct date should be 3/12/1967. This was, I think, her second UK Tour with some 30 odd gigs between Sept 67 and Feb 68. She was one hard working lady! She delivered a great, hard driving set, with loads of personality, the night I saw her - class! She was backed by the Q-set who delivered a tight set that really swung behind her. I think at that time they were Anthony Pereira, Guitar; Tony Omalley, Hammond Organ; Chester Simon, Bass; George Lee, Tenor; Lloyd Smith, Tenor; Herschell Holder, Trumpet; Byron Ly-fook, Drums; I wasn't really into Soul but my Soul preferences were much more Stax style than Tamla Motown. Otis Reading, Wilson Picket, Joe Tex, Aretha, that kind of stuff. I was more into blues so it was the Marquee Club rather than the Flamingo. The Central was a great venue to see live bands in the 60 s. In the 50 s it used to be a half way stop for excursion busses from London going to the Coast - the pee stop - and sometimes you could see 20 / 25 busses outside. This came to an end when the M2 and Farthing Corner Services opened. The pub was famous for ifs collection of Toby Jugs on the shelves round the walls and it soldiered on till the 1980s when it was sold and demolished to be replaced by a housing estate. What else - either housing or a Tesco! Another good venue was the Nags Head in Battersea and that suffered-the same fate! Progress eh? Photos Site Note: Great moment in time photos, many thanks go out to Lorne for sharing, very much appreciated.
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  16. I'm guessing the majority of people on this site would maybe run-a-mile if engaged in conversation with the general public and Northern Soul was mentioned. Why? because any nostalgia that was once present for many of us, has been firmly trodden into the ground by what has become the ubiquitous commercial nature of what many people now think Northern Soul is. Unfortunately, i think this reality is the future.
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  17. I don't believe my post was off-topic. I merely posted the reason why I think there were likely few (if any) store stocker copies pressed up (as absolutely NONE of us has ever seen one, and why I didn't see any at Challenge's L.A. distributor at the time the record would have been out). It had more to do with why DJs weren't playing the DJ issue, and why I never heard it on KGFJ or XERB, and why distributors weren't getting orders for it, and radio listeners didn't ever know it existed. One might guess that Challenge Records didn't have the Soul music marketing connections to produce a Soul hit. But Yvonne Carroll's and The Delicates Challenge releases did fine, charting, and getting a lot of store stockers pressed up, and Johnny Wyatt's at least, got a fair amount pressed up. I've been a member of this forum since 2006, and I don't remember ever writing something that could be considered rude, or a put down. That goes for all the other fora I've frequented since 2001. I certainly didn't mean anything personal. I guess I phrased it in a harsh way. I apologise to his friends and family. I certainly wouldn't begrudge Ron from having a good start at his singing career, getting a smash hit with "Love You So"/"My Babe", or being able to have a short career of a few years with it. My point was that, in my opinion, his vocals on his Challenge record's the two sides didn't have enough spirit or transcending quality to lift the good instrumentals to a level high enough to compete with the really high-quality Soul music on the charts in 1967, to make the DJs want to play it, or record shops to carry it, and so, the kids never even got a chance to hear it. And yes, Challenge didn't give this issue enough marketing push to get it heard. I guess I'm getting mean and insensitive in my old age.
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  18. I've not been on for a bit again - I've been unwell again. So, I hope all of my friends on here; that's you - everyone, are doing ok. Peter
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  19. Bit of free time so here is Issue 1 Talk Of The North Issue 1.PDF
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  20. Thanks for all the contributions and suggestions. Not all are correct from my own perspective, but that's understandable considering that I have dj'd at the best upfront venues for the last 40 years and I dont expect people to keep a diary of my discoveries. Ill try and get a comprehensive list together to iron out some of the inconsistencies. Correct Simon. I have an acetate of the George Pepp, which is not different from the issue.
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  21. Unfortunately I found out a few weeks ago that long time and valued member Mark Bicknell aka @Mark Bicknell had suffered a stroke and was in hospital recovering. The other day I got some news from his partner Karen, letting me know that he is now at home, he still has issues but Karen says that he's in good spirits, still got his sense of humour and driving her crackers! I thought it be a good idea to pass on this, the latest news to all members and also take the opportunity to start this topic up, for myself and anyone else to pass on to Mark, our best wishes on his recovery.
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  22. When you say older individuals or as Labours new tax adviser calls us Old Codgers. I think you'll find that some are collecting rarer records from their younger days that weren't readily available at the time. I thought a young dj like yourself would be out trying to find your own next big future rarity and leave all of the over priced oldies to the generation that grew up with them
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  23. I just read this, it's a really annoying piece to be fair. implying racism among people attending NS events and that the NS scene was a protest movement. She may have got stared at because she was the only person in the room under 50!!! And the point about getting pushbacks for playing new tracks in sets annoys me [they must have been at the local top 500 only doo] as we have people pushing the new releases!!! More BBC tripe I'm afraid.
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  24. There has been dismay in every era over the direction of the scene, the arguments today are the same arguments going back to the wheel. Each era thinks they had the best of it but I do think the best days are behind it. As for the direction, it's not up to us really, those who come forward to carry the scene forward will decide the direction. Not many of us like change especially the change in musical trends. I didn't like the change towards the funky stuff, especially the stuff that was far away from what we grew up with but I guess the lack of quality 60s made others look elsewhere. Others didn't like the modern in years gone by. There will always be something for someone to complain about.
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  25. I would just like to share a little something that made my night on Friday. I was at my usual soul night when a young lad came in with his parents. His Mum later told me that he'd been hassling them for years to let him go to a soul night, but his parents had told him he would have to wait until he was 18. Friday was his 18th birthday & where did he choose to celebrate it? You guessed it - with us at our soul do. What a nice lad he was too - thoroughly enjoyed himself - he danced & danced & danced - he never left the dance floor! They were among the last to leave, so we had chance for a quick chat with him & his parents - lovely people & really nice lad. Such a refreshing change to some of the cocky, arrogant younger people that I keep hearing about on the soul scene recently - we could do with a few more like him! Just thought I'd share that with you - not all the young ones on the soul scene are so full of themselves - just a few that give the rest of the younger ones a bad name.
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  26. No mixed feelings for me, exactly the kind of people and behaviour we went to nighters, dayers, weekenders and soul nights to get away from, still do or try. I’ve seen the footage too. Dancing to Northern was to me and will always be an individual thing, athleticism, energy, passion and an element of showmanship or woman-ship. This is just more div madness as the scene sinks into the depths of despair. I know a lot of decent folk go to these events but this kinda stuff just tars them all wi same brush.
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  27. The first issue of the Steve Benson produced Blue-Eyed Soul track, 'Lonely Lover' by Jim McFarland. Months later in 1969, it was issued by RPR Records credited to Jimmy McFarland. According to Benson, he gave co-producer credit to Wayne Martin because he was a nice guy who was the husband of his girlfriend's sister and that he put up some money for the session. He wasn't involved in the recording process. The creation of this track began when the then 22 year old producer was in the office of Mark Davis who after working as an executive at the Motown Records west coast office, had formed an independent production company. As Benson was leaving, Davis handed him an unlabeled 8" acetate disc and told him that they weren't going to release the recording on the disc and if he wanted to do anything with the song, he was welcome to it. The disc had a 1965 recording of 'Lonely Lover' by Marvin Gaye. Steve took up the offer and while at his job at Disneyland, asked the 25 year old arranger for the band at the Tomorrowland stage, Jack Eskew, if he would be interested in creating an arrangement for 'Lonely Lover'. He agreed and eventually, 13 musicians and three female background singers were booked for the session at Nashville West Recording Studios on Melrose Avenue in Hollywood to record the backing track along with a Motownesque cover of 'Baby I've Got It'. Originally, Ray Lockhart was suggested to Benson by singer Betty Willis to provided lead vocal on the tracks. Steve recalled that on the day before the vocal was to be recorded, he had a function up at his home. He had a professional hypnotist at the gathering who actually hypnotized Ray Lockhart. While Ray was under hypnosis, the hypnotist suggested that he would perform at his absolute best for the session the next day. Well, suffice to say, following the session at Wally Heider's Studio in Hollywood, although Steve was not satisfied with Lockhart's vocal on 'Lonely Lover', he nailed it brilliantly on 'Baby I've Got It'. At a later date shortly thereafter, Steve brought in vocalist Jim McFarland who he had recorded on several of his other productions, and had his vocal added to 'Lonely Lover' at Sound House Recorders in El Monte, California. After the track was mixed and mastered, Steve pressed it on his own label, Summit Records and distributed it to various radio stations. He gave the disc catalog number '1791' after the house number where his parents lived at 1791 Beverly Glen Drive in Tustin, California. Months later, Steve's friend, composer Lou Barreto, suggested that he set a up a deal with RPR to issue the record. Steve Benson said at that time, having already been within the recording industry for a few years, he learned just how slimy the record business was. His previous dealings leasing his productions to Era, Ava, Crusader and Venus were frustrating. Ava Records was infuriating. RPR was no different and him being only 24 years old, record executives basically just flicked him aside as if he were an annoying fly. He recalled that when he made the deal with RPR to release 'Lonely Lover', he submitted a mono tape copy of the final edit. They actually wanted the multi-track tapes, but having learned from past experiences, he declined to provide them. RPR did do some promotional advertising in the music magazines and the record was getting airplay in various markets. He held out and waited patiently for a short while for some compensation to come his way but in the end, the RPR deal would only garner him a mere $100 which he said that he had to struggle to get. He said that he showed up at their office in a older, worn building on Hollywood Boulevard only to find that they were headed out to the race track. After a 'tense' discussion, Steve was handed the cash. That was that.
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  28. There are some great young soulies out there and thats why this pair of self-promoting narcissistic 'theme night' promoters are disrespectful to them and the other clubs/nights that are organised by young souls. I just came across this piece of writing that I did in 2014 as part of a first draft for The Northern Soul Scene Book (2019). It didn't make the book. But I am revising it for my new one. It's full of grammatical mistakes but I think it was very astute. I immediately sensed a product and a producer when they first appeared. Universal tried what Charly are now doing: "Perhaps one of the most successful commercial ventures to co-opt the term ‘Northern Soul’, insinuating a ‘happy go-lucky, smiley culture’ of bouncy, homogenous dancers, is the nineteen-year-old YouTube sensation, Levanna McClean aka ‘Northern Soul Girl’ (NSG). The manufactured character of NSG, “dancing Wigan Casino-style” (Woodhall, 2013), perhaps exemplifies a cynical zenith in the commercialisation of Northern Soul. In one interview, where she demonstrates, through pictures and narrative, ‘how to dance’, we are told that “the basic Northern Soul step is quite easy, a moving from side to side. It's believed that lots of the nice footwork comes from early jazz dancing styles” (McClean, 2013). Whether she is referring to the Nicholas Brothers, or other jazz dance legends, is not clear, but any such lineage of influence is palpably not visible in NSG’s own dancing technique. Once again, we find the wholly erroneous assertion of a ‘side to side’ basic movement. The essential premise of the NSG videos is to find as many different backdrop locations as possible, whether they be leafy woodland, exotic wine bar, the mansion of a millionaire record dealer, and to repeat exactly the same dance movements, over and over again, highlighted before each colourful tapestry. The music is of no importance whatsoever when weighed against the brand-pull of NSG’s smile as she prances for the camera. The smile, and the brand-power, have, of course, garnered fruitful sponsorship, fashion and music shoots, not to mention an attempt by ‘Universal Music’ to corner the market commercially with a series of Northern Soul CD releases (favourite all time classics, apparently compiled by NSG personally, though she has only been ‘on the scene’ for a few years). By placing the emphasis on a poster girl, rather than the music, a major commercial power has finally found a way to market an underground scene that up until now had remained stubbornly elusive to mainstream market forces. In this case, the NSG brand has superseded the music itself. This is, perhaps, the critical point to note; a turning point has been rounded in the commercialisation of Northern Soul, a scene originally built on the worship of music, vinyl and musicians, rather than the relatively recent penchant for teenage, celebrity dancers. In an interview for the Daily Mail (2013), we are informed of ‘team Levanna’, headed by Levannas’s mother, Eve. Eve produces all Levannas’s videos and, we are told, as with ‘Shredded Wheat’ Dave and his son, introduced her to Northern Soul.[i] Here, the historically incorrect dance narrative is further, painstakingly, developed, as NSG asserts that it involves “a lot of acrobatic moves from 1980s hip hop” (McClean, 2013). It might be suggested by the cynic that the endgame in this case is one of financial gain through sponsorship, but whatever the aim of these productions, it becomes historically and culturally problematic when the media, and other investors, hail this manufactured image as the “fresh young face of Northern Soul” (Woodhall, 2013), thus once again co-opting the scene, or a moment in its history, for commercial advertising which might be more accurately described as the “fresh young face of Northern Soul-less”. " (Sadot, 2014).
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  29. I can't believe it's been 10 whole years since he's left us. His saving the knowledge of our especially our rare and lesser-known Chicago Soul music heritage, as well as helping many of the former music artists, made The World a better place. It's a shame he left it so early in life. I hope he's in a better place now. Just like Dr. Robert Stallworth, Robert Campbell did for Chicago Rhythm & Blues, Blues and Jazz of the 1930s-early 1950s, and Robert Pruter did for late 1950s and 1960s Chicago Soul, Bob Abrahamian helped to chronicle especially obscure 1960s and 1970s Chicago Soul, for posterity, for the newer generations to learn about their heritage and be able to listen to a lot of great music that they wouldn't have been otherwise able to hear. Interesting to me that he found a fair amount of great recordings by combing South Side record shops and thrift stores many, many years after I did, that I never saw, and in addition, he made the effort to meet as many of those artists as he could. We were very fortunate to have him as a member of this forum. And I'm very glad to have met him, and dealt with him personally. He was a stand-up guy, and will be fondly remembered.
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  31. Questions: I've been on the scene since 76 and have no recollection of Eve Arslett? Nor has anyone else when I have asked around. Northern Soul DJ? Where? The part about Bristol has never heard of northern soul demonstrates a severe lack of knowledge or an ignoring of.Ricky Brown organised Bristol nighters/dayers, Yate etc and can't recall her apparently? More interestingly, is the fact that she cannot recall him or other Bristol soulies. A random guy took her 'up north' to an all-nighter in a sports hall 40 years ago that held 1000 or more people? Name that 'sports hall? I don't know about you, but i remember the name of my first all-nighter and those i went with. It feels like a made up history to me... Is anyone fact-checking this stuff? The BBC are usually all about that
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  32. Revival? They continually talk as though it went away and these few clubs brought it back to life again
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  34. Marc, I think you've mistaken the 'look on my face' episode. It wasn't because I heard someone else playing the United Sounds, it was sitting there, contemplating listening and suffering an hour or so of Gospel !!
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  35. Blenders-just an ordinary guy c/u Mighty Lovers-they are saying c/u Mill Edwards-just like the weather-Exodus acetate Martha Jean Love-old time lover c/u Perfections-just cant leave you Perfections-my imagination Bessie Banks-i want a guarantee Columbia acetate Devonnes-doin’ the gittin up RCA Custom acetate Derek Martin-flash back-Associated acetate Primers-how does it grab you-loch Sound acetate (alt. version) The Chymes-Im walking in the park-acetate Hopkins Bros-shake sherri-Magnetik Sharon Soul & the Rich Tees-been hearing about you c/u (Sweet Tones acetate) Vessie Simmons-got to have your love c/u Larry Williams-cause I'm a soul brother c/u Mandells-love is so wonderful c/u Agents-trouble-Impact Sound (alt. version) De-lites-trouble-AMS acetate (alt version) E Rodney Jones-you brought out the good in me c/u Brenda Holloway-dont turn you back on me 10” Motown acetate JB Hammond-kiss me baby c/u Ivey Joe Hunter-where are you 10” Motown acetate Porgy Williams-there goes the fool Tyrone Thomas-baby cant you see-Allegro acetate Herman Lewis-good things come to those who wait-acetate Kenny Carlton-I gotta talk to you Ken Barker-see how bad i wanna love you-Groovesville acetate Big Tim & Empires-your turn to be blue-Mecury acetate August Moon-don’t tell me no lies-Gotham acetate. Tommy & Derbys-goin back to Houston-Kool Intrepids-you dont love me c/u Pipkin Brothers-that’s why I love you Diplomats-run back to my lovin arms c/u Brenda Starr-satan let me sleep 2016 (alt. version) give me time to think it over-United acetate (unreleased Thelma) Speed Limit-take it from me c/u Little Dooley-got to help me find my baby c/u Billy Wisdom-I wish I was c/u Voicemasters-dance inst. Roe-o-tation-special category 2018 (alt. version) Richard Caiton-reflections-Uptight Emeralds-beware-Vick Bobby Paris-please say it’s not so c/u Ring Masters-moonlight lovers c/u Adlibs-love is knocking at my heart Bell Sound acetate Len Jewel-dynamite lover c/u The Butlers-I don't understand it Four Tracks-like a love I never had c/u Sugar Pie Desanto-guess who c/u Johnny Brantley-have pity on a fool like me c/u Clarence Townsend-getting my life straight c/u Profiles-is it my girl that’s putting me through it c/u Charlene & soul serenaders-can you win-Paradox The Belairs-I got the feeling-Virtue (alt. version) Original Matadors-searching for love c/u Marvin Sims-that’s what she told me c/u Ed Townsend & Tru-Glows-it’s a lonely night c/u And the Echoes-my love for you c/u Van McCoy-so soon April Blackwood acetate Exits-cool operator c/u Debonairs-it was a dream c/u West Coast Distributors-Ive been deserted c/u Vashionettes-say yes c/u Trends-don’t dance so close c/u Topics-I could never find a nicer girl-Sound Plus Gentlemen Four-in this world Rudy Love-who’s fooling you c/u Alder Ray-what are you trying to do to me-Master Herb Ward-Im so glad-Virtue acetate Milestones-girl I'm too much man c/u Unknown artist-in one ear-Virtue Albert Jones-security & satisfaction c/u Imperial Wonders-I love her so c/u South Coast Connection-one step ahead inst. c/u A Case of Time-Ive got to take it c/u Bill Bush & greater exp.-girl dry you tears c/u Soulful Core-come on & show me c/u Judy Freeman-does he wonder c/u Uptights-you bring out the love c/u Full Force-you’re looking good c/u Mitchell Hawkins & Choice of Love-I don't want to lose you acetate Masters of Soul-oh girl don’t let go c/u Randy & Radiants-it’s over c/u (alt. Bands of Gold) Noble & Uptights-dont wory about it-Action Bobby Jones-stop-acetate 5 Perfections-you can do it c/u Ray Frazier-my baby’s hand-Wright Sound Cindy Scott-heartaches & pain c/u Eddie Alexander-fix it man c/u Willie Newman & Del Reys-love done past me by-acetate Profiles-I still love you-Universal acetate (alt. version) Ike Perry & Lyrics-dont turn around-Cleveland acetate Joe Adams-stop-Frankford Wayne acetate Richard Anthony-no good-Virtue acetate (alt. take) Don Hart-turn back-Mary Jane Alvin Glover-call me baby c/u United Sounds-its all over-United
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  36. I've just had a much more comprehensive history about the Southwind Symphony from John Manship. He is fine with me posting it up on his behalf. "Southwind Symphony. i found the master tape of Lou Pride in Bill Glore's studio on Chelsea Ave, Memphis in 1977 Bill introduced me to Kenneth Smith the producer I asked him if he could make me an instrumental version, he produced the Southwind Symphony for me, and pressed me 1200 copies which I bought. So what's the mystery? Kenneth told me he employed Al Green's pianist for the keyboard work. Nothing fishy about the release all made and mixed by kenneth Smith himself using the mastertape i found at Bill Glore's recording studio where the original vocal version was made. It was an exclusive for me until I wholesaled some out yo Neil Rushton and Richard Domar." and then . . . "Produced by Kenneth Smith at Bill Glore's studios on Chelsea Avenue Memphis, with added keybpoard from Al Green's piano player (Charles Hodges). No mystery or splicing he made 1200 copies I bought them all in 1977 Nev Wherry who worked for me at the time got the first copy, covered it up as Ramsey Lewis."
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    Ashton Ukrainian Club on the 18th of May was a night to remember. A rare evening when everything, the atmosphere, the music just felt special. I’ve not danced as much in one night for decades. The evening kicked off with DJ Phil Dunn, who set the tone with a great selection, including Sam Fletcher and the Chalfontes. Ashton Stalwart Mick Howard then took over, and kept the dance floor bouncing with tracks that included "That’s What Love Is" by the Hesitations and gems from Judy Freeman and Jesse Johnson. Next up was Simon Ingham, who delivered another top quality set. Kicking off with Cleveland Robinson, followed by top tunes that encompassed Hayes Cotton and Carol Anderson, with a few lesser known surprises. Then the highlight, the special guest, soul royalty himself, “Butch”. Playing The Mighty Lovers c/u. It was special getting to hear and dance to the Ad Libs' "Love Is Knocking" and other special acetates such as Darryl Banks' "I’m Knocking at Your Heart". Butch's set included a 70s section and quite a few tracks that were completely new to me and I suspect many there. The night concluded with Chris Churm, who provided a dancer's selection of high-quality tracks that included The Blue Jays, Ascots and Jack Montgomery’s epic ballad Don’t Turn Your Back on Me. Alas it was soon over, the crowd not wanting to go. Kudos to all the DJs and organizers for creating such a memorable night.
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    WOW the stars aligned at Ashton Ukrainian Club, a night that's been three years in the making, after the 2021 post lockdown re-launch!! We've been steadily building, lots of hard work, culminating in one of those "did that really happen" nights!! The right people, the right venue and music from another planet, just about taking it all in, thank you so much The Ashton Faithful, this one was for you!! A crazy busy start with people gathering 20 mins before doors opened and boy was it worth it, many thanks from all at Team Ukrainian !! Phil Dunn did a great opening set, with people dancing from the off!! I did the honors 8-9, hopefully a bit of something for everyone, I'll post my playlist later on, still in recovery mode!! Stockport and Team Ukrainian's finest Simon Ingham followed, Hayes Cotton, Cody Black "it's our time" rubbing shoulders with quality cheapies like Joe Murphy "so blue without you" pure class!! bUTCH followed with a jaw dropping 90 mins set, too many to mention thanks for The Mighty Lovers c/u my knee just about held out lol, there were first time spins and exclusives all gratefully received and appreciated by the dancers. Karen Howard gave up trying to talk to me, I was sat there open mouthed , trying to take it all in, just brilliant !! Lord Ashton Chris Churm AKA "the finisher" took up the baton for another stunning "last hour" special, people demanding just one more record and the place was rammed to the last record, people just didn't want to go home!!! Please join us next time, Saturday June 15th another great line up Roger Banks, Derek Pearson Chris Penn and William Mailey, sound good?? See you there!!! bUTCH Video.mp4
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  37. Well, fortunately for the world of 'comedy dancing' it was Kev Roberts who raised her status from YouTube parody/comedy act (One half of Sal & Pops) to "World Champion Northern Soul Dancer". A case of one mega-narcissist emboldening another via a ridiculously named competition thats a part of a Historical re-enactment weekend in Blackpool. She, as i have said before, was not ever a part of the scene, hence winning the divvy Blackpool Competition: it seems to be a requirement. She actually, seriously, believes she is a World Champion Northern Soul Dancer because Kev anointed her, and unfortunately her marketing convinces the poor fools who pay for this stuff to believe they are learning something to do with Northern Soul. It's all a part of the erasure of the complex history of Northern Soul to replace it with a gentrified, clean, drug free, re-imagined, saleable history that these indivvyiduals can sell. Its new cleaned up image suits the BBC of course and the Proms etc. Its the same reason Breaking is in the Olympics, they need new audiences, but not the real historical context: emanating from the Bronx slums: its how gentrification works. Another notable monetising effort by the Blackpool re-enactment society is the meet and greet fiasco they are advertising where Levanna and the Streets of Soul (it sounds like a musical group but is not, which is Charly Records idea I think) are launching 'her album'. A new turn in the NS compilation market, wherein the musicians are not mentioned or invited or celebrated, but instead replaced by a 'celebutante' (as Charly call her) who people are encouraged to celebrate in place of the musicians and the musics origins. Richard had to turn off comments on his post due to backlash. Charly don't appear to offer any of the many NS DJ /collector compilers the same degree of celebrity manufacturing, a meet and greet, even though their knowledge and experience is far worthier. Could it be a 'blonde haired blue eyed female' marketing thing that draws Charly to attempt this cynical shift? It certainly fooled many on the scene at the beginning, but now only the historical-re-enactment scene seem to accept such silly-ness. Can anyone explain who Levanna and the streets of Soul are? Is it a musical group? A marketing bureau? A manufactured title to make people think they made the music?
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  38. The door is open to everyone. Like you said we didn't go to classes we learnt on the floor, watched what others do and practised at home ready for the following week. None of us are happy to see what we are so passionate about deteriorate and die, but we aren't happy to see line dancing either and other elements being brought into the scene...I presume it is the comments on this that brought about your questions? Line dancing isn't Northern Soul. The scene was once cool as f&*ck, all about individualism, athleticism, flair and showmanship, trying to out do those around you. Not the formulaic routines we are seeing now. I know we are getting on a bit or the majority are but christ they can still try rather than turn it into something it isn't or shouldn't be. If they want to line dance go to a line dancing venue. Everything that seems to be happening at some venues is exactly what we got into the scene for to escape. But the scene is welcoming, just go and enjoy yourself, your two left feet will soon turn into one right and one left and you will pick the moves up but even if you don't just enjoy it, I doubt anyone will castigate you if you can't. We are just old and grumpy
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  39. Well ... after trying for too many years I have just spoken to Dennis Anderson ... brother of Bobby and obviously one-half of the Anderson Brothers It was a random call on my part because he has never picked up before, he said he never usually picks up his house phone, but tonight he did .. so I was caught off-guard .. didn't have my recording equipment ready but he's given me his mobile number so l'm going to call him back ... any questions you want asking drop me a message Short story ... before they were the Anderson Brothers they were in a group called Trieste ... Bobby on lead and Dennis on bass ... that fell apart but they had been noticed by Ray Dahroughe so teamed up with him and recorded 'I Can See Him Loving You' in 74 ... he couldn't remember which studio in NY but recalls Joe Renzetti was organising the strings and Bernard Purdie was on drums & sortng the rhythm section He said he, and his brother, personally drove around to radio stations to drop of DJ copies and he heard it played just a couple of times on the NJ/NY radio stations .. but it never took off ... and I specifically asked him if it ever got into the shops and did he see or own a beige label stock copy .. he said no .. he only ever had a black/white promo .. just the one copy that his ex-wife now has and won't return/has destroyed .. so he believes it never got beyond DJ copies due to the lack of interest ... so me saying I've seen a stock copy, in previous threads makes me doubt my memory Anyway ... he then told me that Dennis & Bobby reformed Trieste, in 76, and did an updated version, with Ray Darhoughe, on IX Chains with Bobby on lead vocal ... so the Anderson Bothers returned in disguise ! I'll update if he answers next time I call him Andy
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  40. Yes, Karen, I totally agree and i wont be silenced by the ridiculous and manipulative "your being negative" or "they are only having fun" response. I've been closely following the rise of this soulless co-optation of the NS culture and history for over a decade. They are easy to unpick and expose because their arrogance and sense of entitlement blinds them to reality. I was not that surprised when many (men leading the way) on the scene embraced the shiny new blonde haired girl(s) romping around to the top 500 (well top 30 really). It seems they were easily blinded by youth and ????? As, in the piece i wrote in 2014, i sensed a product with NSG (the clue is in the narcissistic name that negates all other females on the scene past and present). Now, of course, we have Kev R creating new parody, NS dancing, so called World Champions! That famous dancer Kev R. Its absurd and embarrassing. The 22 Chumpion, then went on to teach (leach) terrible 'Cod' NS dancing for money: using microphone, aunt Sally parody outfits, hopping about and all. She was a YouTube parody NS dancer along with Pops. Then she goes to Blackpool (she's not on the scene) and wins the Championship. It demonstrates the level of NS 'soul' at that event. It is all 'Historical Re-enactment' and nothing at all to do with the Northern Soul scene: like a Teddy Boy event or War of the Roses re-enactment society. They run Northern Soul 'Themed' nights, so lets start calling them that. The problem comes when they make claims of taking NS into the 21st century or they are the centre of soul. I remember 'Levine Must Go' T-shirts (and Ian, love him or hate, him, gave a lot to the scene musically)....we don't need to change many letters to accommodate this new pair of Soul Vampires.
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  41. I believe she DJ'd as 'Jackie Brown', not Northern but, like Winstanley (before the Casino), a disc jockey (ette) type of thing playing a bit of everything. Levanna's name is Abby, so it seems to be an identity created at the time she began dancing for the Iphone online: in order to market/sell something or other. Definitely a production team (duo). Nowt wrong with that, but lets not pretend there is any Northern Soul history behind it, or any general participation in the Northern Soul scene. It's a kind of Northern Soul tribute act I think. Its all very neatly packaged middle class BBC (Proms, Woman's hour etc.).
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  42. Mmmmm, well, for me something does die, as with most culture when it becomes purely about packaging a product and selling it: devoid of context, lacking care, connection, knowledge, community, musical roots, class roots, architecture, history, connection to the scene etc. Driven by the narcissism of wanting to be a northern soul dance star and the arrogance of telling others how to hear and dance to northern soul (just like you hear it and dance to it). Where does the arrogance of thinking they must intervene to help dance evolve on a cultural scene that has managed over 5 decades without their presence? Telling punters that NS dancing is actually difficult to learn, and that they can only access it via your limited knowledge classes, and your embarrassing rendition of what you think it is, is killing the whole point of the 'soul' in the title. The 'soul' in the term 'northern soul, is about going out, listening, watching, talking, connecting, meeting, feeling the movement of a venue and the other souls dancing, and giving time. Perhaps most importantly, not regarding it as disconnected from the music, loving the music first: patience and a hint of devotion perhaps. The onslaught of all these crassly packaged classes treats NS like a musical theatre, performing arts course excursion, or a get fit class. The music and the artists, and link to that primary source, is driven out. Its a way of preparing punters for a Darby and Joan night out or a good old knees up at Blackpool. The scene I know is different, the opposite of that. Firstly, its a NS 'scene', full of complexity, driven by a love of, and connection with, the music. The dancing is a response to that connection. The classes create a disconnection, the important initial stages are missing: terrible cod dancing, taught by soul vampires, that creates soul-less, disconnected punters looking to hop around somewhere. No discerning taste involved. I think the fact that people are dim enough, or fooled enough by false sales narratives, to pay for it, does not qualify it as 'fair enough' for me. I'm always shocked by blasé comments like "well its ok no one dies" or "why should I care", "times are changing". As I've said before, I must have a very different experience over the past 47 of being part of scene that carried on way past Wigan. A scene that went underground, overground, but never Wombling free: picking up any old rubbish.
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  43. Hi everyone, by chance I have acquired a treasure trove that seems to be the old stock of records, master tapes, and promotional photos, etc. that belonged to one of the the owners of the defunct record label Sandbag Records in New York. This includes some original copies of "you don't love me" as well as some interesting metal recording discs that I am looking to identify. So far I have not played them or attempted to do anything to them because they are so fragile. The information from Robert Paladino in the article on the history of the record mentions early demos, so I believe these might be them or some versions of them. If anyone can give me some advice on how to identify them / any insight it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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  44. Some Modern stuff Hamilton Movement-she’s gone-Look Out Love Company-love tempo-RSO Mellow Madness-save the youth-Mega Cosmos Universal Band-third eye-Atteiram Sag ware fare-dont be so jive-Libra Mixed Feelings-sha la la-United United Sounds-its all over-United Tolbert-Ive got it-Rojac King Bartell-its alright c/u 1997 Fredrick Hymes III-time aint gonna do me no favors-Fab Vegas 2001 Black Essence-change in my life-JWJ 1988 Robert Montgomery-I need you girl-Crescent 1996 Unique Blend-yes im in love-Eastbound Major Heartache c/u 1984 Chuck Stephens-paying for your love-Leo Mini True Image-Im not over you yet-Super Smash 1992 Decisions-do I love you-York Leonard Adeair-I dig you-One Way 1990 Billy Byrd-lost in a crowd-Scream Entertainers IV-my beautiful woman c/u 2014 Rising Sun-good lovin-Kingston Morris Bradley Band-teasing me c/u 2005 Linda Brown-Im so glad 1998 little caesar-make believe 1998 Alvin Glover-call me baby c/u 2021 Charlene & Soul Serenaders-can you win-Paradox Larry Hobson c/u 2008 (Watson & Aaron-say whats on your mind-RAC) Benny Sigler-gotta go out and find someone Rozetta Johnson-what ever Im yours c/u 2018 Rhythm Machine-put a smile on time-LuLu Bobby Bell-if they only knew-Virtue Percy Stone-chained-Ram Fantastics-where there’s a will-Impresario Timeless Legend-dont do this to me-Black Forest Billy Byrd-lost in a crowd-Scream Fresh-Thats the way it is-Upper Hand TSU Tornadoes-love you're looking for c/u 1995 (Sugar Bear-Ive got what you've been looking for) Ralph Jackson-I cant leave your love alone-Rajac Willard Burton-my eyes on love c/u 2006 Noah & Arcs-what a fool i have been c/u 2006 Prime Cut-my baby c/u 2000 Rosco Robinson-just ask the lonely-Gerri Chorduroys-stop your calling-acetate Africano-funny-feeling c/u 2010 Brief Encounter-write me a song c/u 2014 Down to earth-aint that loving somebody c/u 2012 Glass Pyramid-i know a place c/u 2010 True Image-keep me dancing-wilier 7” version East Bay Inc-I love you c/u 201 Temprees-you got me burning c/u 2014 Bojac Thomas-I want what you got c/u 2002 No
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  45. In Scotland at the moment, Ardnamuchan, Just had a few days on Mull where the weather was exceptional
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  46. I have always thought that Levanne was self centered and disingenuous,she was at the top of the world reunion last year and because nobody gave a shit and that she wasn't the centre of attention on the dance floor,she left early along with her side kicks.Now that people are seeing her for what she is , hopefuly there will be no longevity.
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